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Brian ([personal profile] memnus) wrote2003-05-30 01:33 pm

Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions

I'm not sure what to think. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely loved the movie, but I think the philosophy was a bit heavy-handed. It feels forced, and has lost a lot of the subtlety that the original had. (I want to rewatch it, actually. Been too long.) What I think most now is that a lot of the mystery is gone. The way I see the final movie going, Neo discovers that he has is powers even outside the Matrix, and comes in to save the day yet again. Others I noticed:

*Councellor's rant about codependence*
"Is that why there are no young men on the Council?"
*Councellor dodges the question*
I wasn't paying attention, but the Council looked mostly female. Seven men, thirteen women? Or whatever the number was? It'd also explain why the council is so keen to let Neo go back. They know the purpose of the One, and are resigned to the destruction and reconstruction of Zion, to keep alive the minds still locked in the Matrix. That guy - whose name I can't recall but takes Neo to the machine level - was probably the One in the fifth Matrix.

Never mind the logistical problems of using humans to power machines.... any life that grows has to take in more energy than it puts out, and the only way to actually get more to the system is either photosynthetic or geothermal. After Operation Dark Storm, the former is out, and it'd be more efficient to use geothermal power directly.

Ok, so that eloquent argument fizzled and died. I'm done.

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[identity profile] solkanar512.livejournal.com 2003-05-30 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Interestingly enough, they covered that question about power on NPR yesterday. When you look at human power alone, then yes, it's a pretty silly idea. However, Morpheus leaves himself an out. When he is explaning how the power system works, he also mentions a "new kind of fusion" in combination with the humans. THis of course leads to questions about why humans were used, but that's something else entirely :-p.

WHat did you think of the use of the Merovingian?

[identity profile] memnus.livejournal.com 2003-05-30 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't paying close enough attention to catch who exactly the Merovingian was supposed to be. Obviously not a well-developed character - or next time I see the movei should be before 11:00 at night.

[identity profile] solkanar512.livejournal.com 2003-05-30 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
The Merovingian was the French fellow that didn't have any lipstick on his face :-p

[identity profile] artificialfurr.livejournal.com 2003-05-30 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
(god damn livejournal deleted my post *gives my computer the finger*)
About all the mystery being gone:
I disagree, the ending of the movie introduces even more questions. When Neo defeats the machines (not quite sure what they're called) it poses the theory previously discussed in the early the planning of Releaded and Revolutions that mybe there is a Matrix within a Matrix. By defeating the machines purhaps Neo is discovering his powers, as in the first movie, of not only the known matrix but the outer matrix. Another question that I'm looking forword for the next movie to answer is what exactly Agent Smith meant by being "set free." What ae the agents exactly and, by being set free, what do they become?

Also, very interesting observation about the counsil, I never noticed the female to male ratio before even in my second viewing of the movie.

[identity profile] squirrelloid.livejournal.com 2003-06-02 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
As to using humans for energy, think of it this way: energy is being lost, yes, and fuel has to be used to support the humans, but maybe they are using fuel that is otherwise useless to support the people. Ie, net energy in the system goes down, but energy usable by machines goes up. Of course, what fuel they would have that the most efficient use would be feed it to humans to use their body heat i don't know.

The matrix within a matrix solves all of this, because then the machines are just the construct of some other controlling entity designed to give people something to fight against and oppose being controlled, with a purpose unknown. Not that i necessarily favor that interpretation...